Episode 34  ·  14m 09s

Dog Fights, Frostbite, and the Poinsettia Myth — Holiday Pet Hazards, Part 2

Dr. Michael LoSasso, DVM & Julie Schwenzer Frisco Emergency Pet Care
Holiday safety Dog fights Toxic plants Frostbite Stress colitis
"Busy homes, colder weather, and celebrations bring a whole new set of risks for pets. Dr. LoSasso shares what to watch for as temperatures drop and holiday traffic picks up."
— Julie Schwenzer

Episode summary

Part two of the holiday hazards series shifts from things pets might eat to things that happen when houses fill up with people and unfamiliar animals. Dr. LoSasso's first flag is bringing pets into someone else's home, or hosting someone else's pet in yours. Mixing unfamiliar dogs changes pack dynamics — suddenly there's competition over treats, attention, or a shared bowl that wasn't there before, and two dogs that seem perfectly fine together can have a sudden fight without warning.

"They get along just fine — and they might, until the day they don't. I'm not bringing another dog in with my pit bull. She's a sweet, amazing dog, but I don't know what she's like with these others, so it's not something I would voluntarily introduce."
— Dr. Michael LoSasso, DVM

On plants, he's happy to bust a long-running myth. Poinsettias have carried a "deadly toxin" reputation for over a century, traced back to an early-1900s death that had nothing to do with the plant — pure correlation mistaken for causation. In reality, poinsettias cause the same mild stomach upset most houseplants can, nothing more; the actual risk is a rambunctious puppy knocking one over. True lilies are the real danger — genuinely toxic to cats, to the point that Dr. LoSasso says a household with cats should simply never have one in the house, though this is more of an Easter/spring hazard than a Christmas one. Dieffenbachia and snake plants (mother-in-law's tongue) can cause oral irritation. And while oleander (common in Texas landscaping) and foxglove (more of a northern plant) both contain cardiac glycosides capable of stopping a heart, he notes dogs and cats rarely go after either one in practice.

Texas cold vs. northern cold

Dr. LoSasso has never personally treated a case of frostbite — North Texas doesn't get cold enough for long enough. When frostbite does happen anywhere, thin-coated dogs with poorly insulated ears, tails, mouths, and feet are most vulnerable. The regional risk here is different: ice storms and freezing rain rather than snow, leaving yards extremely slick — he's seen more than one dog slide on ice straight into a swimming pool. Wet fur dramatically reduces insulation and speeds up hypothermia, which he's seen most severely in older dogs. In colder climates, walking onto a frozen pond or falling through ice into a stream is the real hypothermia risk, and those pets need to be warmed up promptly.

He closes on overstimulation. Stress colitis — significant, sometimes bloody diarrhea brought on purely by anxiety — shows up often in older dogs unused to a house suddenly full of loud young grandkids, or in resident pets stressed by an unfamiliar visiting dog. His practical advice is really about courtesy: think twice before bringing a pet somewhere it isn't the norm, and recognize that a relative bringing their own dog adds real stress to yours, even when everyone insists "they'll be fine." Sometimes they are — and sometimes you end up at the emergency hospital with fight wounds over something as small as sharing a food bowl.

Questions answered in this episode

The following questions are answered by Dr. LoSasso in this episode, drawn directly from the conversation. These are real clinical answers from a practicing emergency veterinarian with 30+ years of experience.

Dr. LoSasso says holiday gatherings often mix unfamiliar dogs together, which changes pack dynamics and introduces competition — over treats, attention, or a shared food bowl — that wasn't there before. Two dogs can seem perfectly compatible for a while and then have a sudden fight, without warning. His own rule: he wouldn't bring another dog into his house alongside his own pit bull without knowing how they'd interact together first.
No, not seriously. Dr. LoSasso says poinsettias have an undeserved reputation dating back over a century, traced to an unrelated death from the early 1900s that got mistakenly blamed on the plant. In reality, poinsettias can cause the same mild stomach upset most houseplants can — nothing close to the "deadly toxin" reputation they carry. He notes a bigger practical risk is just a rambunctious puppy knocking the plant over.
True lilies are seriously toxic to cats — Dr. LoSasso says a household with cats should never have a lily in the house at all, though this is more of an Easter/spring hazard than a Christmas one. Dieffenbachia and snake plants (mother-in-law's tongue) can cause oral irritation. Oleander, a common ornamental shrub in Texas landscaping, and foxglove (more common up north) both contain cardiac glycosides — the same class of compound used to make certain heart medications — and can stop a pet's heart if enough is eaten, though he notes dogs and cats rarely go after either plant.
Rarely, according to Dr. LoSasso, who says he's never personally treated a case — North Texas doesn't get cold enough for long enough for prolonged exposure. When it does happen, thin-coated dogs with poorly insulated ears, tails, mouths, and feet are most at risk. The bigger regional risk is hypothermia from cold water: North Texas winters bring ice storms and freezing rain rather than snow, and he's seen more than one dog slide on an icy yard straight into a swimming pool.
Dr. LoSasso says wet fur dramatically reduces its insulating ability and speeds up heat loss, making hypothermia set in faster than dry cold alone would. He's seen severe cases especially in older dogs. In colder climates, pets walking onto a frozen pond or falling through ice into a stream face a real hypothermia risk and need to be warmed up promptly.
Stress colitis causes significant, sometimes bloody diarrhea brought on by anxiety rather than an infection or toxin. Dr. LoSasso says a common holiday trigger is an older dog, not used to small children, suddenly dealing with a house full of loud young grandkids — or a resident pet stressed by an unfamiliar visiting dog. He recommends being genuinely courteous about bringing pets into someone else's home, since even dogs that usually get along can end up in a fight, sometimes over something as simple as sharing a food bowl.
JulieBusy homes, colder weather, and celebrations bring a whole new set of risks for pets. Before we started, you mentioned a good point about busier homes during the holidays, and people possibly bringing their pets to somebody else's house without warning.
Dr. LoSassoEven with an invitation — not every home is dog friendly, and if they have pets, we're introducing another variable. You might say "oh, they get along fine," and they might, until the day they don't. Dog fights are something we see, and there's a slight uptick at holiday time when you've got strange dogs together, plus treats — of course we give our furry friends presents, dog bones — new dogs in the house, a changed pack dynamic, and maybe a little contest over who gets attention or that treat, where that competition wasn't really present before. I'd be careful having strange pets in my house, especially with dogs. In my own house, I'm not bringing another dog in with my pit bull — she's a sweet, amazing dog, but I don't know what she's like with others, so it's not something I'd voluntarily introduce. It's not inherently dangerous, but it's something to think about.
JulieWe've talked before about toxic plants — could you break down some misconceptions and the truth about holiday plants for dogs and cats?
Dr. LoSassoThe big one is always lilies and cats — not really a Christmas-time thing, more Easter and spring, but true lilies are truly toxic to all cats, and if you have cats you should never have a lily in the house. Poinsettias have gotten a hard time for more than a century — there was a story, early 1900s, about a Russian prince who ate a couple of poinsettia leaves and died a couple weeks later. He didn't die of poinsettia poisoning, it was something else, and correlation doesn't imply causation. We've associated poinsettias with toxicity ever since. They'll cause stomach upset, like most houseplants will, often due to soluble oxalates or other plant chemistry — dieffenbachia and snake plants, mother-in-law's tongue, cause oral irritation for similar reasons. Poinsettias aren't unique there, but they're not the deadly toxin everyone thinks. I wouldn't eat them, they probably don't taste good, but they're not toxic. I can't say I've ever seen a plant toxicity at holiday time specifically. There are truly toxic plants in certain parts of the country — foxglove up north, which we don't really have in Texas, and oleander, which we do have down here as a large ornamental shrub. Both contain cardiac glycosides — they make heart medicine out of them — and both will happily stop your heart. Dogs and cats generally don't eat those, as a rule, and nobody's got foxglove in their house — they're pretty flowers, but they're out in the garden.
JulieI've heard of a case of oleander toxicity in a dog that ate it out in a field while playing. But thanks for the tip on poinsettias — poinsettia and pup lovers can still have them.
Dr. LoSassoAbsolutely — whether red or white, they're big, glorious, really pretty plants, not dangerous to dogs or cats, other than the fact that a rambunctious puppy is going to knock them over, which causes its own aggravation.
JulieFor frostbite, are certain breeds, weights, or ages more prone to it?
Dr. LoSassoDogs without as heavy a fur covering are at more risk. We do see ice storms down here in North Texas, but I've never actually treated a dog for frostbite — it just doesn't get cold enough for long enough here for prolonged exposure. I have seen severe hypothermia, especially in old dogs. Up north where it's cold all the time, you tend to get snow; we don't get a lot of snow, we get a lot of sleet and freezing rain, so our yards get extremely slick. I've seen more than one dog slide right into the pool because of the ice, and that water is pretty cold, so we do see hypothermia that way. Up north, pets walking on frozen ponds or falling into streams is a real hypothermia risk, and it's important they get warmed up. Frostbite itself shows up on extremities — ears, mouth, tail, feet — on dogs that aren't well insulated. I'd absolutely put my dog in boots if she were running in snow, since she's got no hair on her feet. My nearly naked pit bull is nothing compared to Alaskan sled dogs, which are amazing athletes designed for those temperatures — this poor old fat pit bull would not do well in those same conditions.
JulieIs there a certain time and temperature threshold for something like frostbite to happen?
Dr. LoSassoI'm sure there is — it depends on how cold it really is, and wet definitely changes the equation. If they get wet and cold, that wet fur decreases its insulating ability and leads to hypothermia much faster, even if not frostbite. I don't see it personally, but folks in northern climates, friends from Alaska or Minnesota, could tell you far more about hypothermia and frostbite than I can down here — we see a lot more heat than they do, they see a lot more frostbite.
JulieGoing back to this busy season — what about pets on the receiving end of big gatherings, or pets not used to that excitement, and they get overstimulated? What's the threat there?
Dr. LoSassoWe see problems related to stress — what we call stress colitis, a lot of pretty bloody diarrhea in dogs that get really stressed. Often it's older dogs that stay with grandparents, and when young grandkids come into the house — kids start out small and loud, and we get quieter and slower as we age — little children can really stress dogs that aren't used to them. People bringing their own dogs with them can create a lot of stress too, for your animals and for you. As we talked about before we started recording, I'd never take my dogs into somebody else's house. My own father used to bring his Schnauzers to mine, and I'd think, why? They cause me untold stress with that super high-pitched sound — if you're a Schnauzer person, you know exactly what I mean. I'd try to be courteous about bringing pets anywhere, and recognize that if relatives bring their pets, it may mean extra stress for yours. Sometimes they get along great, and sometimes they get along great until the day they don't, and you end up in an emergency hospital with dogfight wounds. Same with people who insist on feeding dogs out of the same bowl — they do great until the day they don't.
JulieThat sounds scary — our labs would put the other one in a chokehold over sharing.
Dr. LoSassoAbsolutely. I want people to enjoy the holidays, not be stressed out over it — pets and people both.

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