Episode 30  ·  12m 51s

Breathing In vs. Breathing Out — What Each Tells an ER Vet

Dr. Michael LoSasso, DVM & Julie Schwenzer Frisco Emergency Pet Care
Breathing distress Brachycephalic breeds Oxygen therapy Pneumonia Feline asthma
"Breathing issues can escalate quickly, and recognizing the earliest signs can make all the difference."
— Julie Schwenzer

Episode summary

Dr. LoSasso opens with a diagnostic distinction most owners never think about: whether a pet struggles more to breathe in or breathe out actually points to where the problem is. Trouble breathing in usually signals an upper-airway issue — his example is an older Labrador with geriatric-onset laryngeal paralysis and polyneuropathy (GOLPP), where a functional obstruction near the voice box makes it hard to pull air in. Trouble breathing out points the other direction, toward the lungs themselves — pneumonia and heart failure patients typically struggle more on the exhale, the same pattern seen in feline asthma.

Increased abdominal effort while breathing is another tell — dogs normally breathe mostly by moving the chest, so visible belly movement means they're working harder than they should be. A practical, almost counterintuitive sign he uses clinically: whether a heart failure patient is willing to eat. Swallowing requires briefly holding your breath, so a dog that starts eating again is usually breathing more comfortably than when it arrived.

"We don't like to see a cat that is open-mouth breathing. Yes, sometimes they'll pant if they get really hot — but honestly, even here in North Texas, we don't see that many panting cats. It's 100 degrees today."
— Dr. Michael LoSasso, DVM

Cats get a specific warning: open-mouth breathing is not a normal heat response the way panting is in dogs, and should be taken seriously whenever it happens. He also flags a heart-failure pattern unique to cats — instead of fluid collecting inside the lungs, cats often accumulate fluid around the lungs, physically restricting how much the lungs can inflate.

Flat-faced breeds carry a built-in disadvantage

Brachycephalic breeds — English and French Bulldogs, Shar-Peis, Boxers, Pit Bulls, Lhasa Apsos, Pekingese, Boston Terriers — often have a narrow trachea or excess redundant tissue in the roof of the mouth, both of which compromise airflow from birth. Because these breeds are also naturally noisy breathers, Dr. LoSasso says owners have to judge against their own dog's normal baseline rather than assuming loud breathing is automatically fine — or automatically alarming. And since dogs release heat mainly through the respiratory tract, a compromised airway means less capacity to dump heat, which is exactly why brachycephalic dogs shouldn't be left outside for any real length of time in Texas summer heat, even dogs that clearly want to be out there.

In the ER, evaluation centers on mucous membrane color, respiratory rate and effort, and oxygen saturation (SpO2) via pulse oximeter — placed on the lip, ear, or wherever's accessible, targeting a 98-100% reading. Treatment depends entirely on the underlying cause: oxygen therapy (a climate-controlled ICU chamber reaching about 45% oxygen versus 19% in room air, intranasal cannulas for larger dogs, or high-flow humidified oxygen for severe cases like smoke inhalation); physically draining fluid that's compressing the lungs from outside; diuretics for fluid inside the lungs from heart failure; or antibiotics plus oxygen for pneumonia. He shares a memorable case: an English Bulldog-Pit Bull mix with pyothorax — a pus-filled chest cavity, likely from a migrating plant foreign body — that needed chest tubes on both sides of her chest and five days of hospitalization before she recovered and went home, a case he wasn't initially confident would end well.

Questions answered in this episode

The following questions are answered by Dr. LoSasso in this episode, drawn directly from the conversation. These are real clinical answers from a practicing emergency veterinarian with 30+ years of experience.

Dr. LoSasso says it points to where the problem actually is. Difficulty breathing in usually signals an upper-airway problem — he gives the example of an older Labrador with geriatric-onset laryngeal paralysis and polyneuropathy (GOLPP), where a functional obstruction near the voice box makes it hard to pull air in. Difficulty breathing out points to a lung problem instead — pneumonia and heart failure patients typically struggle more on the exhale, the same pattern seen in feline asthma.
No — Dr. LoSasso says open-mouth breathing in cats is generally a sign of trouble, not a normal heat response the way panting is in dogs. Even in North Texas summers, he notes cats rarely pant from heat alone. Open-mouth breathing in a cat should be taken seriously.
Brachycephalic (flat-faced) breeds — English and French Bulldogs, Shar-Peis, Boxers, Pit Bulls, Lhasa Apsos, Pekingese, and Boston Terriers — carry an inherent disadvantage, whether from a narrow trachea or excess redundant tissue in the roof of the mouth. Dr. LoSasso notes these breeds are also naturally noisy breathers, so owners need to judge changes against their own dog's normal baseline rather than assuming any noise is abnormal.
Dogs release body heat primarily through their respiratory tract. A dog whose airway is already compromised by anatomy has less capacity to dump heat efficiently, making overheating far more likely even in short periods outside. Dr. LoSasso says brachycephalic dogs shouldn't be left outside for any real length of time in North Texas heat, even dogs that clearly enjoy being outdoors.
The team checks mucous membrane color, respiratory rate and effort, and oxygen saturation (SpO2) using a pulse oximeter placed on the lip, ear, or another accessible site — a healthy reading is 98-100%. Dr. LoSasso notes readings can be hard to obtain depending on how cooperative the pet is, and that a useful practical sign is whether the pet is willing to eat, since eating requires briefly holding your breath — a heart failure patient who starts eating again is often breathing easier than when they arrived.
It depends on the cause. Oxygen therapy — delivered via a climate-controlled ICU chamber (up to about 45% oxygen versus 19% in room air), intranasal cannulas for larger dogs, or high-flow humidified oxygen for severe cases like smoke inhalation — is common across the board. Fluid around the lungs (restricting how much they can inflate) may need to be physically removed; fluid inside the lungs from heart failure is treated with diuretics; pneumonia requires antibiotics plus oxygen support. Dr. LoSasso describes a case of pyothorax (a pus-filled chest cavity, likely from a migrating plant foreign body) in an English Bulldog-Pit Bull mix that required chest tubes on both sides and five days of hospitalization before recovering.
JulieBreathing issues can escalate quickly, and recognizing the earliest signs can make all the difference. When a dog starts showing breathing changes, what are some early signs that could be red flags for particular breeds that owners should look out for?
Dr. LoSassoBreathing is important, we all have to do it. Being a really astute, observant owner — is your dog putting more effort into breathing, is there even an abdominal component? Normally they breathe just by moving their chest; a lot of abdominal effort means they're trying harder. If they seem to have a hard time breathing in — this isn't something owners are necessarily going to distinguish easily — but as a general rule, difficulty breathing in means an upper respiratory or upper airway disease. Think of a 14-year-old Labrador, very exercise intolerant, having a hard time breathing — a lot of that's from difficulty inhaling because of what we used to call laryngeal paralysis, now called geriatric-onset laryngeal paralysis and polyneuropathy, GOLPP — a functional obstruction right in front of the voice box, making it hard to get air in. Versus a two or three-year-old Irish Wolfhound also having breathing issues, not eating well, kind of lethargic — Wolfhounds are super prone to pneumonia for whatever reason, so he's got increased respiratory effort, but his problem is breathing out, because his problem is in the lungs. Pneumonia patients and heart failure patients have a hard time breathing out.
Dr. LoSassoIn cats, asthma makes it hard to breathe out too, same as in people. It really comes down to how hard and how frequently they're breathing. A lot of times they'll stop eating — actually we use that the other way around. If my heart failure dogs start eating again, well, think about it, to swallow you have to be willing to hold your breath, so if they're willing to eat, they're not having as hard a time breathing as when they came in. That's something to watch for in cats especially — we don't like to see a cat open-mouth breathing, that's generally a sign of trouble. Cats sometimes have, secondary to heart failure, fluid around their lungs instead of in them, restricting how big the lungs can inflate. Cats are always sensitive around respiratory rate and effort — we don't want to see open-mouth breathing. Yes, sometimes they'll pant if they get really hot, but honestly, even here in North Texas, we don't see that many panting cats. It's 100 degrees today.
JulieWe were talking before this recording about flat-snouted dogs and how that can be tricky for parents to judge.
Dr. LoSassoTricky for some doctors too, honestly — people bring in an English Bulldog saying he's having trouble breathing, and I'm thinking "that sounds like a lot of noise to me," but they all make a lot of noise. So we rely on mucous membrane color and SpO2 — the little device that reads what percentage of hemoglobin is bound to oxygen, ideally 98 to 100%. That's sometimes hard to get depending on cooperation — sometimes it's an ear, sometimes a lip. Sometimes it's putting them in oxygen. Sometimes it's understanding what they've been going through — like I said, it's 100 degrees, you can't leave your Frenchie outside for any period of time. My Pit Bull goes outside and comes right back in, she's not allowed to sunbathe in summer even though she loves it, because it's too easy for them to overheat. Dogs have to get rid of heat through their respiratory tree, they breathe it out — and in dogs whose respiratory tract isn't designed in a friendly way, maybe a narrow trachea, maybe a lot of redundant tissue in the roof of the mouth, like English and French Bulldogs, Shar-Peis, Boxers, Pit Bulls, Lhasas, Pekes, Bostons — all those smush-face dogs have an inherent disadvantage with breathing to begin with, so we have to be really mindful whenever they seem to be having trouble, heat-related or not.
JulieWhat does treatment commonly look like in the ER for breathing issues in dogs and cats?
Dr. LoSassoI'll quote one of the great ER doctors, Jennifer Devey — oxygen is a drug, and a really good one, we all need it. In people they'll put a mask on or cannulas up the nose. In smaller dogs we put them in a climate-controlled ICU chamber where we can increase oxygen — you and I are breathing about 19% right now, we can get our oxygen cages up to about 45%, roughly double what they'd get in room air. In really large dogs that don't fit our oxygen cages well, we deliver oxygen via intranasal cannulas instead. Our hospital also has high-flow oxygen therapy, running oxygen at a much higher rate than normal — it's not controlling the airway, so some can escape back out, but that high flow helps keep the lungs a bit more open because there's more air physically going down, and it's humidified at a very high oxygen concentration. That benefits smoke inhalation, house fire dogs, severe pneumonias. If there's fluid around the lungs restricting expansion, removing that fluid is the answer, though the question is how temporary the fix is. We had an English Bulldog-Pit Bull mix, adorable dog, with what we call pyothorax — a pus-filled chest cavity, probably from a migrating foxtail or other plant material that set up an abscess. We put chest tubes in both sides of her and had her in hospital about five days before we got it under control and she went home — a big win, we weren't confident early on that she'd make it. If there's fluid in the lungs, we use diuretics to help dry them out. It depends on the problem — for pneumonia, diuretics don't help, you need antibiotics, usually a couple different ones, plus oxygen while you wait.
JulieWhy does that fluid buildup happen in the first place?
Dr. LoSassoFor a couple different reasons — with cats and heart failure specifically, I couldn't tell you the exact physiology, but we take X-rays and it's clear: there's nothing wrong with the lung tissue itself, but they only have maybe 10% of the space they normally have to inflate their lungs, so there's not much room to trade oxygen for carbon dioxide with such shallow breaths. Removing that fluid, which is frequently clear, is really helpful. The challenge is that fluid tends to come back — there's no good reason to have fluid in your chest, not a single one. So it's really about managing the base problem and keeping everybody comfortable in the meantime.

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